
To take advantage of this....this will allow us to continue the process to have this implemented....

While we're making strides, there's still much more work to be done with respect to our low performing schools.

Thompson: Teacher quality makes a difference. Not only is there a teacher shortage, but a teacher distribution factor. We want to seize this opportunity by looking at different strategies to put these educators in front of our most needy children.

A lot of the heavy lifting is already being done.
We also want to identify low performing schools. We've been in discussions as to which schools GCS wants to target. We work closely with the New Schools Project.
What determines career decisions among these teachers? How safe is your car in the parking lot? What impact do the high performing teachers have in their new settings?
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This new nationwide study...we already have two years of MP data. Very limited teachers will be involved. It will be a very rich study. GCS can benefit greatly.
Holcombe: we want to hold these MP schools harmless, since we have other research projects going on in addition to MP so we are removing MP from this project altogether.

Q&A from Board members upcoming...
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Glazerman: we're conducting pilot and a feasibility...what would be a good match and what would be a good motivator...a great teacher, they won't work for a principal that they can't buy into. We can carefully select schools were if there is a concern where leadership that is not going to be effective, those schools might be eliminated. This study is a carefully controlled experiment.
This program is being duplicated into other districts around the country.
Routh: Length of time of the study?
Glazerman: Fall of 2009 then a six month timeframe. One of the things we found useful is the communication between the district and school leadership and to access the resources that are available to them.
Routh: How many years of data are available?
Glazerman: We have early data right now, we just started placing teachers.
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Thompson: I think we've begun to address it. That is a concern for us. In some cases, we have resignations...retirements. In some cases, we have promotions. I concur, I think administrative stability is key, both in this endeavor as well as others.
Quick: I also have an issue with an experiment being done at low-performing schools. What if it doesn't work?
Green: The way I would look at it as one of a number of different strategies to bring in high quality teachers at low-performing schools. I'm suggesting to you that I would like to fill these vacancies with people who can move student performance.
Quick: we have had experiments and they don't work and we need to get back to the core of doing what works to educating these children and I do know that moving principals has had an effect for the schools in District 9.
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Zhang: if you're talking about MP, we already received a brief report of high schools and their cumulative effects.
Hebert: I'm looking for the reduced class sizes and the weighted allocation formulas for funds.
Zhang: We have not looked at that.
Hebert: Aren't we tainting the data pool?
Zhang: We will have Peggy take a look.
Glazerman: we know what works relative to student achievement. We know teacher effects are strong. I can understand there can be some negative connotations.
Hebert: You're taking a pool of people, who are used to working in one environment, placing them in another, paying them more, in the form of an experiment...I don't buy it.
Glazerman: I probably would not characterize it that way. My experience in teacher mobility...those who move out of the district...a teacher who has a weak attachment to their school has a weak attachment to their school. When you invest a lot in teacher induction and then they leave you, then that costs a district a lot of money. What kinds of training opportunities are being provided to both enhance productivity to these teachers?
Hebert: I'm with Amos...I'm skeptical.
Glazerman: It's for the district, but it is for the benefit of all districts, including yours. This is how many of the programs coming out of the Dept. of Education comes out. Obviously districts that participate in programs like these would benefit. It is hard to find out what works unless things are tried.
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Thompson: We're still waiting for some value-added data to come in. The report is due Dec. 17.
Belton: how would this put up against any potential teacher unionization?

Thompson tells Belton the program is voluntary and has the blessing of NCAE president Mark Jewell.
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Duncan: is staff recommending we do this?
Thompson: yes. The historical perspective, the impact for having these teachers in these schools...the answer is yes.
Sharpe introduces a motion to table the discussion, which passes on a vote of 5-3, Kearns, Belton and Garrett voting nay.
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1:54pm: back at the home office...I wholeheartedly agree with Mr Quick and Mr. Hebert...I would not be in favor of this proceeding...at least not until the new incoming Board has had a chance to look at this. And not to mention that I would want this proposal to be in conjunction with the upcoming Mission Possible report.
Again, I will reference my sister-in-law; when we have qualified math teachers such as her who want to go into MP schools to teach and they are not even being given interviews, or the professional courtesy of a call back after an interview, something is critically and categorically wrong. And until this is corrected, I cannot wrap my hands around anything related to Mission Possible, or even this proposal. Don't use our district as guinea pigs, when we have enough problems as it is.
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UPDATE: Doug Clark at the N&R was also at the meeting, and is discussing it as well.
E.C. :)
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EC - EXCELLENT coverage!!
Thank goodness you're back!
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